Chrome Non-Commercial Use Kitchen Island Lighting

This double-ring interlocking LED pendant light creates a focal point in any space with its modern artistic design. The metal body paired with luminous LED strips forms a interlocking ring structure, offering both illumination and a sculptural visual appeal when illuminated. Adjustable cord length makes it suitable for dining islands, kitchen bars, bedroom bedside tables, or hallways, injecting a dynamic and sophisticated atmosphere into modern, light luxury, and minimalist homes.

These kitchen island lights are beautiful. They are very bright and the gold color really pops. They are a nice big size.. Lisa. Lithonia, GA. Tue Sep 22 2026

Elevate your space with our exquisite crystal pendant light, meticulously crafted from premium-quality crystals to refract natural light into a breathtaking, radiant glow. The durable metal frame and crystal lampshade are expertly engineered to withstand deformation, oxidation, corrosion, and high temperatures, ensuring timeless beauty and enduring performance. With its sleek, modern design, this pendant light stands out among other fixtures, offering a unique and sophisticated aesthetic. It is perfect for creating a comfortable and elegant atmosphere in your home.

These lights added a little pretty bling to our kitchen. They were easy to install and are a nice quality.. Anonymous. San Diego, CA. Tue Aug 18 2026

This exquisite pendant light is defined by its artisan-crafted water-textured glass—each shade is individually mouth-blown, creating soft, flowing ripples that capture and scatter light like liquid crystal.

Beautiful. Anonymous. Wed Jul 29 2026

Transform your kitchen into a chic and refined space with the addition of this exquisite 1-light single pendant. Its clear hammered glass shade and elegantly rippled details create a one-of-a-kind look that's sure to impress. Perfectly designed for a kitchen island, this pendant light not only delivers a warm and inviting ambiance but also adds a touch of sophistication to your home décor. Elevate the style of your kitchen today by adding this stunning pendant light to your décor. (Note：Since the glass shade is handmade, the dimple is different for each glass shade.)

Love love love these pendant lights. I couldn’t wait to get them hung. They’re everything I wanted and then some. So happy with my choice. Tina. Ny Ny. Fri May 01 2026

The handblown clear hammered glass shade exudes timeless elegance, while the sleek metal accents add a refined touch of sophistication. This fixture masterfully blends classic artistry with contemporary design, creating a lighting piece that feels both enduring and entirely of the moment.

Fit our space great! The metal frame with the hammered glass is exactly what we were looking for. We love them.. Nick. West Frankfort, IL. Sat Jul 18 2026

This sleek pendant light combines modern design with everyday versatility. It fits seamlessly into any room—whether over your kitchen island, dining table, or living room nook—and adapts to a variety of decor styles. Customize the height to your preference, use standard bulbs for easy setup, and adjust the brightness with dimmable lighting to create your ideal atmosphere. With all mounting hardware included, installation is simple and straightforward. Elevate your space with light that works as hard as it looks.

Good quality. Easy to install. The only issue was we ordered three lights and they all came on different days, rather than shipped together. David. Canada. Thu Sep 03 2026

This subtly luxurious crystal pendant lights creates a focal point in any space with its modern, artistic geometric design. Its clean, simple lines and warm metallic sheen combine a sculptural aesthetic with lighting functionality. The metal frame paired with a high-transparency cut crystal cube creates a unique interplay of light and shadow. When illuminated, light refracts through the crystal, producing a dazzling yet soft halo, infusing a sophisticated, understated luxury atmosphere into bedroom headboards, kitchen islands, entryways, or dining bar counters. It's the perfect finishing touch for modern, understated luxury, and minimalist home décor.

Beautiful and recieve multiple compliments on how they look. The lights are everything we expected. Dione Lynette. West Bloomfield, MI. Fri Oct 02 2026

Featuring a perfect combination of metal and crystal, this pendant light offers stunning lighting effects and modern industrial glamour that is far more striking than the picture suggests. Matches most furniture styles for a modern and glamorous lighting effect.

Love the lights they look amazing. Tracey Ruth. Lake Grove, NY. Fri Sep 25 2026

The handblown clear hammered glass shade exudes timeless elegance, while the sleek metal accents add a refined touch of sophistication. This fixture masterfully blends classic artistry with contemporary design, creating a lighting piece that feels both enduring and entirely of the moment.

Simplistic but beautiful, hand blown glass pendant light. It arrived packaged well with no damage or chips. Easy to assemble with 3 screws and a pole which you can adjust to whatever height is needed. This will look good wherever you want it.. Darlena. Southfield, MI. Sat Jan 24 2026

The handblown clear hammered glass shade exudes timeless elegance, while the finish adds a touch of rustic sophistication. This fixture seamlessly blends classic and contemporary styles

Looks great, wish the screws on the glass went in enough to be flush with the glass but other than that they’re great. Anonymous. Tue Mar 31 2026

The KADNIS Triple Pendant Light is a striking contemporary lighting statement designed to elevate modern interiors with sculptural elegance. Featuring three fluid, glass shades inspired by the visual fusion of materials in a liquid state, this pendant light creates a captivating focal point while delivering refined ambient illumination. Suspended from a sleek central canopy, each glass globe hangs at an individually adjustable height, allowing you to customize the arrangement to suit your space. The reflective glass finish enhances light diffusion and produces mesmerizing highlights and shadows, adding depth and sophistication to dining areas, living rooms, stairwells, or modern office settings. Available in gold, chrome, copper, and violet finishes, the KADNIS pendant adapts effortlessly to contemporary, modern luxury, and artistic interiors. Designed to accommodate three E26 bulbs (not included, maximum bulb diameter 60mm), this fixture offers flexible lighting options—from warm atmospheric glow to brighter functional illumination—depending on your bulb choice. With its avant-garde aesthetic and premium materials, the KADNIS triple pendant light transforms everyday spaces into refined design environments.

I absolutely love this chandelier! It looks elegant and adds so much character to the room. It’s a beautiful statement piece that makes the whole space feel special. I’m so happy with my purchase and would definitely recommend it!. Olha. Wed Oct 07 2026

This stunning bubble crystal glass pendant light features LED integrated circuits，Sloped Ceiling Adaptable and three adjustable colors, maximizing perfect room decoration while saving costs .It is perfect for breakfast bars, dining rooms, or any other room needing a hint of elegant lighting fixtures.

This a beautiful light fixture. It’s over the island in my kitchen and I get compliments about it. It’s bright and elegant.. Nicole Thompson. Riverview, FL. Fri Jul 10 2026

Featuring a sleek, elongated form and intricate crystal detailing, this linear long strip crystal led pendant light is engineered to enhance both contemporary and minimalist interiors while delivering exceptional functionality. Its centerpiece is a long, rectangular strip encased in textured, crackled-crystal glass, which refracts warm white light (3000K color temperature) into a soft, inviting glow. The crystal’s surface mimics the natural patterns of frosted ice or rippling water, creating dynamic light play that adds depth and visual interest to any room. Its streamlined silhouette ensures it complements high ceilings and open-concept layouts without overwhelming the space.

Beauful light just what I wanted. Liv. Mon Aug 24 2026

Brighten up your space with this 52.4" W oversized modern 5-light linear kitchen island pendant. Featuring a sleek design, this dimmable pendant combines the allure of an electroplated copper finish metal mounting plate with iridescent glass lampshades that emit a subtle, colorful glow. The interplay of light and shadow across its surface creates a mesmerizing visual effect, making it a focal point in any glam room. Whether used over a kitchen island or dining table, this classic pendant adds a touch of classy and contemporary elegance to any space.

Love it!. Bridget. MI. Sat May 09 2026

Add a touch of contemporary elegance to your home with the Kitchen Island Pendant. Showcasing an exquisite hand-blown gradient grey water glass shade, this fixture features a hammered texture that dramatically interacts with the light, offering both functional illumination and a dynamic ambiance. Due to its artisanal craftsmanship, each piece boasts uniquely rippled dimples for a beautifully bespoke look. Suspended by four adjustable rods, you can effortlessly customize the hanging height. Combining modern design with everyday practicality, this stunning pendant creates a captivating focal point in your kitchen or dining area.

Very pretty and easy to install. They put off great light and look great over my kitchen island. Edison bulbs are a must with these fixtures.. Gina. US. Mon Jul 20 2026

Illuminate your space with this Luxury Crystal Pendant Chandelier. This modern-style crystal chandelier is a total showstopper for interior decor, all thanks to its unique design, clever dimensions, and awesome functions. This modern Crystal Pendant Light blends sparkle, style, and brilliant glow for any room.

Absolutely love these pendant lights. I have a very big island and ordered 3 of them.. Laura. Portland, CT. Tue May 26 2026

This 5-light cluster pendant features clear glass teardrop shades hanging in a close formation to create a rainfall effect across your space. Metal hardware supports the hanging cords, creating a clean-lined look that elevates ambient lighting above islands or seating areas. The transparent glass lets light shine through clearly, brightening up your space while keeping the overall design light and airy. Plus, it works with sloped ceilings and dimmer switches so you can adjust the lighting setup to suit your mood.

Fun, functional and unique. Great product. Randy. US. Sat Mar 26 2022

Seamlessly merging contemporary luxury with everyday practicality, the Levona 1-Light Cone Pendant makes a sophisticated design statement. It features a premium artisan hand-blown glass shade that beautifully highlights your choice of bulb, gently diffusing the light to cast a warm, inviting ambient glow throughout your room. Designed with sleek geometric hardware, a fully adjustable suspension cord, and a sloped-ceiling compatible canopy, this versatile fixture brings tailored sophistication to kitchen islands, dining areas, cozy breakfast nooks, and high-end entryways. (Please note: E26 bulb and dimmer switch are not included).

Looks more expensive than the price. Easily installed. Very satisfied with this purchase.. Christine. La Crescenta, CA. Tue Jun 02 2026

This modern LED crystal Glass pendant light cleverly combines luxurious texture with minimalist lines, becoming a striking focal point that elevates the style of any home. The lamp features a classic circular Canopy, paired with slender yet sturdy suspension wires, creating a clean and elegant visual silhouette. Most striking are its crystal-clear, columnar crystal glass elements. When the built-in high-quality LED light source is illuminated, the light refracts and scatters within the crystals glass, creating a mesmerizing display of sparkling light spots, reminiscent of twinkling stars, and producing a romantic and dreamy lighting effect. Whether suspended above a dining table to add a touch of warmth and elegance to mealtimes, placed in a living room with high ceilings to create a visual centerpiece in a spacious area, or used to adorn a bedroom or entryway as the first impression upon entering, it effortlessly fulfills its purpose.

Beautiful and elegant, brings substance and appeal to the kitchen.. Kenneth. Triangle, VA. Mon Aug 05 2024

This pendant features a hand-blown glass in glass pendant with an inner frosted glass. The length of the wire is easily adjustable, allowing you to obtain the perfect height and look for any location. The ambient light dispersion is perfect for over a counter, dining room or foyer, illuminating the room.

Bulbs are very unique! Love them. Haven’t installed yet but happy with the design.. Emily. Edmonton, AB. Wed May 04 2022

Illuminate Your Space with Adjustable EleganceIntroducing our stunning adjustable crystal pendant light, designed to bring customizable sophistication and brilliant sparkle to your home. Featuring a luxurious Gold finish, this versatile fixture is the perfect blend of modern functionality and timeless charm, ideal for creating a captivating focal point in any room.Key Features & Benefits:Customizable Height: Tailor the drop length to your exact needs! Includes three 11.81-inch, one 5.9-inch, and one 3.14-inch stems. Adjust the height from a minimum of 11.81 inches to a maximum of 57.08 inches, perfect for standard and vaulted ceilings.360° Adjustable Angle: Uniquely adjust the light's direction to focus illumination precisely where you need it most—perfect for task lighting or highlighting decor.Premium K9 Crystals: Crafted with high-quality K9 crystal elements for exceptional light transmission, dazzling refraction, and a luxurious sparkle that enhances any ambiance.Versatile Application: Ideal for lighting kitchen islands, dining rooms, breakfast nooks, hallways, foyers, bedrooms, and over sloped ceilings. Diameter: 5.11 inches.Modern Compatibility: Features a standard E26 bulb base (recommended max bulb length: 9.05 inches). Compatible with LED, incandescent, and dimmable bulbs (BULB NOT INCLUDED).Sophisticated Design: Combines a durable metal chassis and frame in a beautiful Gold finish with a clear glass lampshade and sparkling K9 crystals for a cohesive, elegant look.Sloped Ceiling Compatible: Designed to work seamlessly with angled or vaulted ceilings.What’s Included:1 x Pendant Light Fixture (Gold Finish)1 x Glass Lampshade3 x 11.81-inch Extension Stems1 x 5.9-inch Extension Stem1 x 3.14-inch Extension StemAll Necessary Mounting HardwareNote: Light bulb is not included. Please check the maximum recommended bulb length (9.05in) before purchase.Transform your home's lighting with this adjustable and stylish crystal pendant light!

It's very nice, I looked at thousands of pendant lights before deciding on this one and I really like the shaded dark crystals (can't see here cuz I used the wrong 4K bulb, but will change to warm 3K soon). However our electrician says there is no certification sign for UL/CSA for North American use? I took off a star because of this and no labeling.. Cecilia. ON. Mon May 11 2026

This teardrop pendant light blends modern and natural vibes, with transparent glass for soft diffused light. Adjustable height, easy to install/clean, ideal for various indoor spaces.This energy-efficient kitchen island lighting will add warmth and beauty to your home.

Definitely love it !! Arrived exactly like the picture. Anonymous. Thu Sep 24 2026

Inspired by the timeless beauty of diamonds, this exquisite contemporary metal pendant light is a captivating focal point in any dining room. Designed with 4 symmetrical hanging crystal lights, its polished chrome finish reflects is posh sparkle and glow.

The look is nice. The installation would be a lot easier if the wires could be cut and didn’t have to be wrapped around the casing.. Robert. Maitland, FL. Sat Jul 25 2020

Transform any dining room with the bold, contemporary style of this expansive item. An homage to the art of fine metal craftsmanship, its modern minimalist lines and chic curves are highlighted with a warm, luxurious finish.

Very beautiful lighting fixture it’s for a house that is near the ocean it gets very humid and it’s really tough to have glass you covered every knee we had for a lighting fixture, elegance, glass, free, dimmable lights size and shape great job. We love it.. Gina. Kinnelon, NJ. Fri Aug 14 2026

Elevate your home's style with this stunning handblown glass with a shade. Its sleek and modern design, combined with the chrome finish and shade, creates a sophisticated and eye-catching look that's perfect for a kitchen, bedroom, office or liviing room.

Coastal style and bright illumination come hand-in-hand in this 1-light pendant fixture. Crafted from steel, it features a single standard socket that suits a bulb of up to 60W (sold separately). A bell-jar shade made of seeded glass refracts light to bring a warm, welcoming glow to your dining room, living room, or entryway. Up top, it hangs from a sloped ceiling-compatible canopy and a height-adjustable downrod. Best of all, it's safe to use in damp locations, and it's compatible with a dimmer switch, letting you choose your brightness levels.

These are a must have if you have an island! Very well made and beautiful!. Jamie. Syracuse, IN. Thu May 21 2026

Clear and contemporary, this 3-light pendant fixture brings a modern look to your kitchen or dining room. Made from metal, this piece features three blown glass dome shades with turned handles and seeded glass. Inside, three sockets suit standard bulbs of up to 60W (sold separately). Up top, it hangs with help from three slim height-adjustable downrods and a rectangular canopy that works with sloped ceilings. Best of all, it's rated safe for damp locations, and it pairs with a dimmer switch for custom light levels.

Very nice loved it.. Rijushree. Rensselaer, NY. Wed Sep 16 2026

Timeless elegance and versatile simplicity converge in the Ezra collection. The etched opal glass center emits a dreamy diffused light, softly suspended in a sleek, geometric frame. Hang as a pendant or flush mount in a bedroom, foyer, dining room, kitchen, or living area for the ultimate combination of style and warmth. From fashionable hardware and unique silhouettes, to timeless finishes and remarkable craftsmanship, Robert Stevenson Lighting is as enduring as it is versatile. The thoughtful addition of a ceiling light from this hand-picked collection will create a warm and welcoming ambiance that is guaranteed to impress. Frosted A lamps are ideal for creating a cozy, inviting atmosphere. Light fixture measures 10 inches L x 10 inches W x 12.5 inches H; Maximum Height: 56 inches, Minimum Height: 13.5 inches.

Beautiful pendant light that looks simple but elegant. It goes well in the kitchen area or bar area. I went with the kitchen area because it matched my theme and colors. The lamp is a bronze color. The only negative thing about this lamp is that the base broke so easily. I would have to order a new one just to replace it.. Isela. Las Vegas, NV. Thu May 01 2025

Illuminate Your Space with Timeless Sophistication. Elevate your interior with the Maybrie 4-Light Crystal Pendant. Perfectly balancing modern luxury with classic elegance, this stunning fixture features meticulously handcrafted chains combining two unique crystal shapes. When illuminated, the high-transmittance, multi-faceted crystals cast a mesmerizing and dynamic play of light and shadow across your room. Complete with adjustable hanging rods and sloped-ceiling compatibility, this versatile chandelier serves as a breathtaking focal point for your kitchen island, dining room, or upscale entryway.

I love this! Arrived on time, exactly as described, and easy for the handyman to install. It looks fantastic in my kitchen, and I would recommend to anyone.. Beth. Chicago Suburbs. Sat May 16 2026

The Laramy 2collection is contemporary style with an industrial feel. The collection features a variety of simple, traditional silhouettes that are a nod to a bygone era. Transform the look of your room with these classic, vintage-inspired fixtures. A variety of plated and painted metal shade finishes are offered in choice combinations. This 3-light linear pendant features frosted glass diffusers for warm task lighting over a bar or nook.

Renovating kitchen. Exactly like the picture! Sturdy looks great! And arrived in just in time for the dinning room. Ursula. Hockley, TX. Mon May 05 2025

The Iftimie collection is contemporary style with an industrial feel. The collection features a variety of simple, traditional silhouettes that are a nod to a bygone era. Transform the look of your room with these classic, vintage-inspired fixtures. A variety of plated and painted metal shade finishes are offered in choice combinations. This 3-light linear pendant features frosted glass diffusers for warm task lighting over a bar or nook.

BEAUTIFUL ALL MY FRIENDS ADMIRE THEM. Toni.carter51yahoo.com. Miami Beach, FL. Sun Nov 20 2022

If you are looking for a light source for your bedroom, living room, foyer, kitchen, or dining room, this exquisite 4-light LED chandelier can easily fit into your modern home décor. Chrome metal frame with clear crystal accents. The LED bulbs are integrated into the frame. The adjustable cord links make this fixture suitable for most ceiling heights

This 3-light pendant brings brilliant style to your kitchen, bar, or dining room. Crafted from metaland glass, this light features a circular base, two slender down rods, adjustable chains, and a trio of bowl-shaped shades with exposed hardware for a vintage vibe. Each of the three fixtures accommodates a 100W bulb (not included). This light is compatible with sloped ceilings; add a dimmer switch (not included) to set just the right mood.

Beautiful light fixture! Needed a chain-mounted system to adjust height when needed (will have a rolling island underneath); by using 2 small carabiners to connect the light to the ceiling plate (bypassing the chain as shown), I can safely walk under the light without hitting my head! The diffusers on the bottom look great!. William. Mesa, AZ. Thu Jun 04 2026

This 3-light pendant illuminates your space with a mix of glam materials. It's crafted from metal with a simple canopy and a bar downrod in silver hue with a shiny chrome finish. The design features three fixtures evenly spaced, each ending in a hurricane-frosted glass shade with geometric accents – we love that it diffuses the ambient glow from the three standard bulbs, which are sold separately. It's dimmable for setting the brightness to just the right level.

Very pretty fixture over my island. Rhonda. Somerville, AL. Tue Jun 30 2026

Part of what makes pendant lights so popular is their ability to hang in clusters over central points in a home, like kitchen islands, dining tables, or sofas. This piece is a great option for creating that look without the mess of wiring multiple luminaries: consisting of three lights in cone shades, this pendant is perfect for an industrial-inspired look above any surface. And since it's dimmable and can be mounted on a sloped ceiling, this 100 W three-light luminary allows you to adjust your ambiance to your needs.

Love this light! Looks perfect over kitchen island. Quality product. Maria. Bellefontaine, OH. Mon Jun 01 2026

This 3-Light Chrome LED Pendant adds a touch of modern sophistication to any space. Its sleek chrome finish and contemporary design create a captivating and eye-catching look. Imagine it suspended above your dining table, casting a warm and inviting glow over your meals, or adding a touch of elegance to your kitchen island.

This is funky and fabulous. We love it! Not heavy or clunky. Sight line from kitchen to living room good.. Susan. Collingwood, ON. Sat Jan 18 2020

This 3-light linear island pendant illuminates your home bar or kitchen counter with glittering crystal. It's crafted from metal in a silver hue with a chrome finish, a simple circular canopy, and two shorter downloads. The design features an S-curve with three fixtures evenly spaced along it, each surrounded by a glittering crystal shade that artfully reflects the ambient glow. This pendant light takes three candelabra bulbs, which are sold separately. Safe to use in dry locations only.

So strong and easy to installation. Arfan. US. Tue Jul 21 2026

The pendant light is just what I was looking for. To bad it took 3 shipping's to get it. First it came in wrong color, the it was replaced by a single light pendant, but the third time was a charm, the correct item arrived. Great item with a good price, and not Wayfair's fault, it was the supplier.. R.c.. St George, UT. Sat Nov 16 2019

Cascading encapsulated in crystals give our iconic Original Glacier collection effortless glamour. The magnificent cascading LED points add just the right amount of drama to your home.

Illuminate your kitchen island with the George Kovacs Brevoort LED Island Light. This pendant light fixture brings a blend of modern and rustic charm to your space, perfect for those who appreciate an industrial touch. The clear crystal shade allows the light to disperse evenly, providing a warm, inviting glow that enhances the ambiance of your kitchen. With a color temperature of 3000K, this light creates a cozy, comfortable environment. The fixture comes with an included LED bulb, offering energy efficiency and a long lifespan of up to 30000 hours. Its adjustable height feature allows you to customize the fixture to your space, ensuring the perfect fit. The light is also dimmable, allowing you to adjust the brightness to suit your mood or the time of day. Made from durable materials like aluminum, steel, and crystal, this light is built to last, making it a worthwhile investment for your home.

This modern fixture offers timeless elegance for your home. It features sparkling crystal shades and a chain for hanging. This fixture is perfect over a kitchen island or dining table , casting ambient light across the room.

This product brings a boost of brightness and a touch of contemporary style to any arrangement with this pendant. This fixture features four slender cords that adjust in height between 14" to 59" to suit your space. The lamp comes with an LED light source, no need to buy additional bulbs, it only needs 4W to light up.

Every one loved it. We got so many compliments.. Sriram. Ashburn, VA. Sun Nov 15 2020

This 5-light linear pendant adds a modern industrial look to your home, thanks to its open, geometric frame and its sleek, clean-lined silhouette. It's made from steel with a metallic finish that's sure to turn heads wherever this hangs. This rectangular structure also includes a central bar that holds five 60W bulbs (sold separately). Two height-adjustable rods suspend from a canopy that's compatible with sloped ceilings. It's also compatible with dimmer switches, allowing you to control the amount of ambient light it gives off. Plus, at 41" wide and 8" deep, this pendant is a great option for your kitchen island or dining room table.

Easy to hang and can be used with adjustable lightbulbs.. Tabitha. Hickory, NC. Thu Jul 23 2026

This collection is the interpretation of a classic design. Reminiscent of a planet in orbit, the superbly polished solid crystal sphere is CNC (Computer Numerical Control) processed to create a cylindrical laser cut-out. The inner walls are sandblasted to achieve optimal light diffusion. The modular Contec system is seamlessly incorporated without detracting from the illusion of a suspended ball of even illumination.

The lights look fantastic. Solid, good quality.. Tracy. Saskatoon, SK. Tue Jul 21 2020

This chandelier is stunning with a chrome metal frame decked with strands of faceted clear iceberg bubble crystals, and the crystals further highlight the uniqueness of this chandelier. When you hang this modern crystals chandelier in a room, you will easily be surprised by the magnificent light reflected by the crystals. This fixture showcase opulence and elegance and is the perfect modern accent to any space. If you are also looking for a light source for your bedroom, kitchen, living room, foyer, staircase, or dinning room, this chandelier can easily fit into your modern, farmhouse, transitional, rustic home decor.

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If you are looking for a light source for your bedroom, living room, foyer, kitchen, or dining room, this dimmable LED chandelier can easily fit into your modern home décor. Chrome stainless steel frame with clear crystal accents. The LED bulbs are integrated into the frame.The adjustable cord links make this fixture suitable for most ceiling heights

Looks beautiful. You can use your light switch to turn on just the base lights, just the dangling lights or both.. George. Scarborough, ON. Sat Oct 12 2024